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Saturday, May 28, 2005

Politics and divisiveness

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Xpatriated Texan asked about political divisiveness.

Our political system is based on divisiveness, assuming (correctly) that inevitable differences of political opinion need to be regularly tested in elections. If you run for office, you are being divisive - you are trying to take political support from someone else, dividing their support.

All political entities (not just government - busineses, churches, any organization or community) embody a degree of divisiveness. It's human nature for groups to define themselves in skewed and self-serving terms of us (the good, well-motivated guys) vs. them (the morally challenged folks 'way over there). However, there is a point at which political division becomes destructive. This is best understood by starting from the opposite end of the spectrum - political unity and inclusiveness.

Political unity and inclusiveness is, unfortunately, often a byproduct of tragedy. Natural disasters, fires, and wars often result in periods of unity. The weeks after 9/11 were an extraordinary time of unity and inclusiveness, when differences were put aside to meet common needs. Such periods of unity usually pass with the events that brought them.

Political unity can also result from political achievement - pretty much everyone does love a winner. Achievements such as the passing of a major political initiative, victory in war, development of public works such as schools and parks, or the arrival of prosperous times, generally bless politicians with periods of unity (aka political capital). Savvy politicians reinvest that unity/capital into new initiatives in the hope of growing the desire to be included in popular achievements. This is the basis for the best and most constructive political power. Presidents such as Clinton and Reagan knew how to maximize and reinvest the power that came from such achievements.

Practicing the politics of division can also be a means to power, although that path tends to limit one's long-term political opportunities (just ask Al Sharpton). This tactic is usually most heavily employed by those who have little political power, and have no achievements on which to build an empowerment base. At the extreme, the practice of such politics can result in cults and dictatorships. German Nazism came into power as a result of divisive politics.

This sort of politics, at its worst, employs greatly exaggerated characterizations of those inside and outside its dividing lines. The Nazis, for example, drew heavily on warped portrayals of Aryan wholesomeness and non-Aryan acts of cowardice and betrayal.

[The Nazis were an interesting example of the power of division. They were able to rise swiftly into power because other German political groups were themselves extremely divided. The 'us against them' tactics used by the Nazis to gain power sought to unite fractured German political elements by dividing Germany from the rest of the world (portraying the country as under attack from external forces). Once government control had been achieved, the tactic evolved into one of division against 'weak' and/or 'disloyal' Germans (famously the Jews), leveraged against new 'inclusionary' manifestations (invading and annexing neighboring countries to 're-unite Germans').]

A group practicing divisive politics, then, is (a) a group not building a reputation based on achievement, and (b) a group drawing extreme conclusions regarding the motivations of those within and outside the group, as a means to bind the group together.

On that basis, Soares' group, aka the Marsh campaign, is clearly more divisive than Roberts' campaign. In all its campaign literature to date, the only 'achievement' they point to is a pay to play law that, by the group's own admission, does not work. (Reading their materials, one would think Marsh had not even been office these past four years - or in Soares' case, 6.)

In regards to (b): the discourse emanating from those affiliated with this campaign never rises above bitter demagoguery. An excerpt from a May 24th email blast:

"David Roberts has spent almost a million dollars in an attempt to secure a big fat early retirement pension. If he is reelected he will get the 25 years of public service necessary to qualify for early retirement. If he stays through the entire term and raises his salary 10 % to $ 150,000 (what's to stop him?), then his pension will be around $ 76K, less a few percent for early retirement, plus cost of living increases. He will start collecting it at age 53 instead of at the normal retirement age of 60. This means he will collect an additional half million dollars if he is reelected. Is it any wonder they have been so nasty? Remember, these are the same people who did "Toss the Midget". People, including public employees, should be reminded that he's done all this to line his own pocket with an annual pension that is larger than the salary of many people."

Contempt is directed not only at their political opponent, but at anyone not on their side of their dividing line, as shown in this appalling email (dated April 23):

"...nearly everybody agrees that our public schools need improvement... Newcomers like me, almost by definition, are better-educated than these home-grown dummies [referring to Marsh's political opponents and their supporters]. ...Remember, Dave [our mayor] was born and raised in our fair city, which almost by definition makes him dumber than most Americans."

No doubt Soares and Marsh would disavow these emails if publicly confronted with them. (Indeed, the second email expressly disavows any connection with any campaign - even as it steers readers to the Marsh site.) But within the Soares/Marsh group such rhetoric is tacitly approved and encouraged. Soares, leading by example, has long been known for his anonymous hit-and-run accusations. Such propaganda motivates and holds the troops together. Roberts' media strategy against Marsh, alluded to in the first email, was not designed to pump up his backers (as the Marsh campaign would admit, Roberts' supporters have other motivations for supporting him). Roberts' lackluster campaign messages (and attacks on Marsh) were analyzed here.

As the runoff comes to a close, this divisive circle will be completed when the local paper gets the usual letters from the Marsh campaign condemning the other side's 'filthy campaign tactics' while lauding their own 'clean campaign'. In practicing the politics of division, it's as important to characterize the faithful as saints as it is to villify one's opponents.

If Marsh is right in describing Roberts' camp as a haven for the town's developers, then Roberts is on soild ground in painting Marsh's camp as an incubator for embittered, myopic misanthropes.

It's no wonder the vast majority of voters avoided the election altogether, and that only a third who did vote opted for either candidate. Hoboken's citizens were holding out for better choices.

{PART OF A SERIES: The 2005 Hoboken municipal election}

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8 Comments:

Anonymous gadfly said...

It is intellectually dishonest to reference this admittedly horrific piece by Mr. Glasel and not mention that as a result of it, he was disowned by the Marsh campaign, and his campaign contribution was returned. He can reference them all he wants; as far as they're concerned, he's got nothing to do with them.

5/31/2005 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger Mr. Snitch said...

Yes, it would have been dishonest for us to have intentionally omitted a fact of which we were aware. You are implying that we were aware that Marsh has 'disowned' Glasel, and of course you do not know that to be true. Had Glasel been PUBLICLY disowned (i.e., had there been for example a letter in the paper) we would have noted it in the post, or at least you could legitimately claim we 'should have known'. For that matter, it would have been simple enough for Glasel to distribute Marsh's 'disownership' statement the same way he distributed his original statement, but that never happened, either. (Glasel DID send out a half-hearted 'apology' after the email, but that happened only after we told him how he was doing Marsh more harm than good. Even then, he couched it in terms of 'misinterpretation' which it clearly was NOT.)

If our intent was to hold back information to smear Marsh, we would have removed your comment or blocked comments altogether. However our intent in these posts is to present the clearest picture we can of all involved in this election.

If your claim (that Marsh 'disowned' Glasel) is accurate, then things stand as we predicted in the post: When confronted publicly, Glasel was disowned by the Marsh campaign.

As for "Intellectual" dishonesty (we always thought one was simply honest or dishonest): this also includes impugning the motives of others. As you did to us in your comment. Marsh's supporters (or her campaign) also impugned the motives of David Roberts in the first email the post mentioned, the email concerning his alleged monetary motivations for seeking re-election. Please do comment again when/if Marsh publicly disowns that very distasteful email.

Further, it is 'intellectually' dishonest to claim that emails such as Glasel's don't happen because they are tacitly encouraged in the Marsh camp. If you really want to pursue this line of thought, we'd be happy to fire up a whole new post detailing Soares' behavior in office since 1999 - disavow THAT. If we were you, we would not tempt us to pursue this. Frankly, we're not interested, either, since we would prefer to pursue the idea that the Marsh campaign (as of this past weekend) may have turned a positive corner in its ad strategy. But hey, you want to go down this road instead? Say the word.

If you could be more circumspect concerning your allegations on this site in the future, that might help allay the widespread public concern about the 'reformers' arrogance and evident preoccupation with squashing criticism. This would be very much to the benefit of the Marsh campaign. Voters don't see attacks on concerned citizens as a real asset in their elected leaders, and we've seen enough of it already from Soares (who thought he could do his usual 'anonymous post' routine on Delea's site - except that we could see his workplace address and finally called him on it). We are engaged in rigorous discourse here - if you want to engage in snide allegations, God knows there are plenty of other boards available. And while we have no axe here to grind on either side (we are equal opportunity critics), we note that we are not receiving nasty allegations of 'dishonesty' from Roberts' people. (At least, not yet.) And we criticize him PLENTY.

Roberts is aware that criticism goes with the job. If Marsh's people want the job, they also have to demonstrate that they know the lay of the land.

OK? So: Nasty notes - go elsewhere. We maintain a troll-free zone for the benefit of our readers. Facts and thoughtful discourse - welcome, friend. Them's the rules here.

5/31/2005 06:35:00 PM  
Blogger Xpatriated Texan said...

What I fail to see is why it is "the politics of divisiveness" for Carol Marsh and her campaign to say anything bad about Roberts, but it is not when you say that Roberts is right to paint "Marsh's camp as an incubator for embittered, myopic misanthropes."

Similarly, I've never gotten a straight answer why it's okay for Scott DeLea to run as "an independent candidate with no ties" then turn around and endorse the very team he was running against. Not from you, not from Scott DeLea's site (where my comments were deleted, but I received a nice private reply), not from anyone.

The whole rant about the Nazis is fine - but it simply has no part in the discussion of Hoboken politics. It seems to me you are simply falling into the same trap that so many others have - the whole stupid Bush is Hitler type ads, etc. You are simply trying to paint the Marsh campaign by associating them with Hitler - that's low.

Unfortunately, on all sides, the first casualty of a political campaign is civility, followed closely by the truth. I've not seen any evidence of you trying to rectify this situation at all. I do, however, have to credit you with being as critical of the Roberts campaign as of the Marsh campaign - it's just a shame that you generalize from the campaign to the candidate with Marsh but not with Roberts.

5/31/2005 06:52:00 PM  
Blogger Mr. Snitch said...

••What I fail to see is why it is "the politics of divisiveness" for Carol Marsh and her campaign to say anything bad about Roberts, but it is not when you say that Roberts is right to paint "Marsh's camp as an incubator for embittered, myopic misanthropes."••

(1) Yes, you do fail to see the point I was attempting to make about divisiveness. I don't know that I can make it more clear, so let's move on. (2) I very, very expressly allowed that both Roberts' and Marsh's camps are making a valid a point about the other side. You only mention one half of the characterization, despite the fact that they were in the same sentence.

The importance of both characterizations is that they have currency among the public. Both candidates have a major image problem. Roberts is attempting to mitigate his image problem by running ads in which he is claiming, in effect, not to be in developers' pockets. Whether or not the public chooses to believe the ads is irrelevant - the point is, he is working on a problem with his public image. Marsh's public image problem, as noted and exploited by Roberts, is that her campaign attracts radical, irresponsible misanthropes like lint on black velvet. Since Soares is the poster boy for this fringe, that is a problem which should be of serious concern. Emails such as the ones I cited DO NOT HELP MITIGATE THIS IMAGE. While Roberts is attacking the message, you are attacking the messenger. All right, but guess which of those two strategies wins elections?

••Similarly, I've never gotten a straight answer why it's okay for Scott DeLea to run as "an independent candidate with no ties" then turn around and endorse the very team he was running against. Not from you, not from Scott DeLea's site (where my comments were deleted, but I received a nice private reply), not from anyone.••

Let's work from back to front. If your comments were deleted from Scott's site, I'd have to wonder how you handled yourself. He has a fairly high threshold for allowing criticism on his site. Perhaps you were rude. He did reply to you privately, so I guess you didn't like the answer. "Not a straight answer" means he was being evasive with you (in your opinion at least). I am not privy to the exchange, and I don't care to be.

Working to front: Your logic here is muddled. Don't know why you bring up the "independent candidate with no ties" and then complain that he backed Roberts. Does that mean, if he backed Marsh, that would also be objectionable, because he should not have "ties" to anyone?

He is no longer running as an independent for office, because he didn't make the runoff. Since he is now out of the race, he feels that now he should be contributing by endorsing someone. That is not contradictory. It's not as if he changed his mind and is now running on someone's team. He is no longer running for office! And if the candidate he helps wins, it does not mean he gets a seat on the Council.

As far as the "why he backed Roberts" question:

(1) Again (and this IS getting old) I am not his spokesman. (2) You make the false assumption that he was "running against Roberts". I wrote that campaign, and you are wrong. His campaign was not against Roberts, it was against the way this government has failed Hoboken's citizens. And in that, there is lots and lots and lots of blame to go around. (3) Scott and I both listen to the public. The public was only 1/3 behind either candidate. This election is one of attrition - whoever wins will be the least-hated candidate, not the most-loved. Marsh is NOT the people's choice. If it seems that way to you, then you are not listening to at least half the people. (In this election, no one is the people's choice. The public just doesn't like the choice they have.)

In addition, there are a number of questions which I would ask before backing a candidate, some of which I suggested that Scott keep in mind, when making a decision regarding whom to support in a situation such as this:

(a) What kind of people does this campaign primarily attract? Is it a reasonable cross-section of the electorate, or only people like themselves? [A mayor represents the entire town, not just the people (s)he relates to easily.] (b) How effective is their outreach into various parts of the city, and how well do they understand different types of people? (c) How have they treated their supporters in the past? [Quick guide: How long have they been with, say, their current campaign manager? How far back do their political relationships go? Who calls them friend?] (d) What is their actual record in office - not just what they say they'd do if the wind were at their backs? What did they actually manage to accomplish the past 4 years, in or out of office, all excuses aside? (e) How did they conduct themselves toward you (Scott) while you were in the race? (f) How well have they kept past promises (to the public, to each other, to their mothers, to anyone)? (g) How are their relations with other elected representatives?

Scott asked questions like those (maybe not those very same ones, I couldn't say), and arrived at a decision.

Now, you need desperately to get past this issue and get constructive. When you do not get a vote or support you are looking for, you push on and get others. You do not get stuck in the mud hurling innuendo and making yourself an enemy. There might well be people on Marsh's team doing just that, but if so I do not advise following their lead. That's exactly how campaigns lose their way: they sit there and hurl invective at other groups and harden positions, instead of agreeing to disagree and moving on, hoping that minds might change in time.

••The whole rant about the Nazis is fine••

Sure it was fine. No one was called a Nazi. No one was insinuated to be a Nazi.

••but it simply has no part in the discussion of Hoboken politics••

I was describing the range of political and societal impact from absolute political unity and inclusion, to extremes of political division. That has a part in any discussion of politics, if the nature of politics is to be understood.

••Unfortunately, on all sides, the first casualty of a political campaign is civility••

That is why I am not on your site insinuating that you are a hypocrite. It would be uncivil. And anyway, not an argument I'd care to pursue.

••followed closely by the truth. I've not seen any evidence of you trying to rectify this situation at all.••

I have no idea what 'situation' I am supposed to rectify. Clueless. Do you mean that 'truth' is a 'casualty' on this site? That's a pretty broad statement. Is everything on this site untrue then? Just certain things? Perhaps only my criticisms of Roberts are true? No idea.

••I do, however, have to credit you with being as critical of the Roberts campaign as of the Marsh campaign••

We are all bozos on this campaign bus.

••it's just a shame that you generalize from the campaign to the candidate with Marsh but not with Roberts.••

Well, lost me again there. Sorry. Anyway, thanks to both of you, XT and gadfly, for writing.

6/01/2005 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While it's true that Soares can be a real loose cannon sometimes, it is patently unfair to tie his actions and behavior to the campaign as a whole -- just as it is to tie the behavior of John Glasel, whose campaign contribution was returned, NOT "once there was a backlash," or whatever you said, but IMMEDIATELY. I suspect you are someone who was on the receiving end of one of Tony's ill-advised shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later episodes, and you are retaliating by projecting his solo behavior onto three other candidates who have completely different styles and have tried to rein their running mate in. You talk a lot about "maturity" on your site. Yet all I see is someone who appears to be exacting revenge on someone for insulting them, and who makes snide remarks about other bloggers because they don't share their political views 100%. Maturity indeed.

6/02/2005 07:30:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. Snitch said...

"Exacting revenge on someone for insulting them... Snide remarks about bloggers because they don't share their political views 100%." I guess there's no use pointing out the irony, huh?

My use of the word 'maturity' was in conjunction with the Marsh campaign, and was a compliment. If you're telling me I was wrong, I'm ready to be convinced.

As I said, it would have been simple enough to immediately have Glasel send out another email blast with an official disavowal from Carol. His messages were quite public, the takeback was not. We've covered this at some length already.

Since I'm not seeing any public disavowals of Soares from your campaign, pardon me while I excercise my right of free speech on my own site. I'd like to have seen Marsh or Lenz or someone associated with Soares publicly (not here on my site, not anonymously, but publicly) disown, and apologize for, one of his many "ill-advised" actions over the six years he's been in office. Please show me one single newspaper article where that has happened. Until that kind of RESPONSIBILITY for him is taken, you'll have to be reminded about his embarassments on sites such as this one.

Public office comes with public criticism, legitimate and otherwise. Should citizens criticizing their government expect retaliation like this from Marsh's people once she's in the mayor's office? Will we have a government in which Soares (an elected official since '99) can say what he wants about anyone without a public peep from you? Why is it that if I (a private citizen) say something I can ONLY be a malcontent - even though you admit he's an ass. And you don't want the Marsh campaign associated with his actions. The campaign knew what he was when he was put on the ticket. Time to stop acting like he's a surprise. You take the good with the bad. He's an asset when he lashes out at your enemies. Live with it when he's criticized for his excesses. Again, HE IS ON THE TICKET. Nobody at this end tied him to anyone.

Instead of typing 'whatever you said' you could try scrolling back to read what was actually said before lashing out. If you did that, you could actually learn some things that would help the Marsh campaign. There is a lot of very legitimate and constructive criticism on this site. In fact, if you want to learn something about how to properly handle criticism (well, maybe you don't, but if you did) you could study Matt Stoller of Corzine's campaign. He's been getting a lot of it already but never stops to attack bloggers the way you have. He's too smart for that. Keep in mind that every time you indulge yourself like this, you are digging yourself (and the campaign which I surmise you care about) a hole.

Sincere thanks for the comments. You've provided real public insights into the Marsh campaign for open government. Stop by anytime.

6/02/2005 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are a legend in your own mind, my friend.

6/02/2005 09:59:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. Snitch said...

I guess the 'stop by anytime' offer is just going to be abused by this poster. Put it this way, then: Come back and comment when you have something worth saying.

6/02/2005 10:15:00 AM  

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